Ghosts and Gnosis

[Eryss Waldu]

Alright I was reading several of the pages and I have a question concerning ghosts. Now we all know that Ghosts are a specific type of undead that choose, for whatever reason, not to reincarnate and that as such they exist in something of a miserable condition.

On Mizahar Ghosts are not an altogether uncommon sight and it's said that they can be seen in many cities where they may even converse with the townsfolk. In some cities Ghosts are even accorded rights like living people as long as they adhere to the local laws while in others they aren't tolerate or treated nearly as nicely.

What I want to know is whether or not Ghosts can recieve Gnosis from the Gods. That might seem like a no brainer considering that Uldr grants his Gnosis to undead to create Chained Ones, etc but none of those creatures are ghosts and what about the other Gods?

If Ghosts are capable of reaching any height of heroism, or any depth of infamy, then would it be possible for a Ghost to be granted the Gnosis of any God? Krysus, Leth, Nysel, etc.

After all they are Gods so I'd think they could give their blessings or curses to whomever they wanted but I wanted to check and make sure.

[Jokor]

Well, the lore states that while they might be able to use gnosis. Most gods don't give any gnosis to ghosts, for the simple fact that ghosts are supposed to pass on and be reincarnated. So they aren't really reliable candidates for a gnosis. No use letting somebody share in your power when they can just dissapear any time.

[Rage]

This was asked by another ghost player before and as Jokor has stated, and as written in the lore, they can't receive any Gnosis. I don't think even possessing a host who has a Gnosis mark will allow the ghost to use said mark, as I think gods mark an individual's soul, not just their mortal bodies. I may be mistaken though. Input from a Founder would be appreciated to clear the matter up.

[Eryss Waldu]

Thanks for the answers. I'm not a Ghost player myself but I've been reading a lot of the lore and the question just stuck out in my head. I must have missed where it talked about Ghosts being unable to recieve Gnosis marks which is my bad.

Now that you mention it though I am curious about the whole possession thing and whether a Ghost could use those marks or not though. lol

[Reaver]

A side topic to think about. A Nuit who changes bodies would keep any gnosis marks he had, as they would re-appear with some time. However, he would lose the ones his host had. ((Though the physical mark may not vanish right away.))

Nuit aren't ghosts, but if they can't take gnosis marks, I doubt a ghost could. This doesn't answer your main question, but I suspect they couldn't use the gnosis of a host they took over.

[Liam]

Being a ghost player myself, I wondered this as well. There are some things in the lore that are misleading and sometimes contradictory regarding this, and I haven't found anywhere that specifically says a ghost cannot receive a gnosis mark. That being said, I brought the question to the founders and was told that no, ghosts cannot receive gnosis. So yeah.. it's confirmed, they cant.

[Cilaes]

I believe Myri has a group of gnosis marked ghosts, though I could be wrong.

Edit: i guess the Shadow Guard aren't actual/normal ghosts.