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by Gossamer on September 28th, 2011, 4:44 pm
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by Gossamer on October 2nd, 2011, 2:35 pm
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by Jameson Kindle on October 2nd, 2011, 4:35 pm
Being a Newbie: For Dummies As a newbie amongst the ever growing sea of newbies, I have found this particular scrap quite interesting and informative… I think it’d probably be nice for everyone to read this one, so I’ll exploit it as much as possible. Honestly, I’m a pretty thorough guy. I like to read everything and understand as much as possible on my own before asking someone for help. I personally get annoyed when I know for a fact that all the information in the world is available for someone to get off their ass, reach out, and take, and yet they burden people with a massive mound of questions. When I joined Miza (a week or so ago?) I read everything I could in the rules and starting guide. I researched the starting package, the races, the cities, the lore, the magic, the skills, the religions, etc. There has obviously been a lot of time, effort, and creativity put into this game, and it’s beyond unique. When I stumbled across the chat room, I was skeptical at first. I’ve never been a fan of chat rooms, but not 30 seconds into entering, everyone was bidding me a warm welcome. Players were offering their assistance. Storytellers were urging me to check their cities out. The friendly atmosphere showed me immediately that I had found where I wanted to be. On the other hand, there’s a difference between what the veterans were doing versus the newbie-helping-newbie problem here. Not once did a veteran try to walk me through the character sheet creation process. Not once did a veteran try to baby me through getting started. I worked pretty hard to get my ducks in a row and get started. I didn’t expect to be able to jump right into everything. It’s kinda like college. You have to study to get good grades. You have to read the wiki and lore to understand Mizahar. I feel quite fortunate that I had all of the information I needed at my immediate disposal to work my way up to being thread-ready. While I know for a fact that I haven’t gotten everything under my belt yet, I do know my way around. I’m pretty good at navigating through the forums and finding what I’m looking for. There has been an occasion or two in which a brand new player has come in with trouble finding a particular thing such as the price list or gnosis list. Because I have these pages (and many more) save into my search bar, I have delivered links to these pages through the chat room. Likewise, there have been players who have come in asking who they should talk to about applying for a gnosis or other special permission. I have told someone how they can reach the Help Desk forum. I explained that the red names in the chat room are founders. It’s nice to have some help, yes, but I wouldn’t dare offer advice if I was doubtful in my knowledge. Personally, I know how hard I worked for all of the information I needed, and I don’t think anyone else should be an exception to this. I worked hard. I’m sure others have worked hard. You should too, no matter how new you are. The founders have provided plenty of helpful links and tips, even in the welcome PM that you receive 30 seconds into joining Miza! There’s no excuse for asking obvious questions. I’m by no means saying that you shouldn’t ask questions. You learn from asking questions. But I remember my third grade teacher saying “Ask three, then ask me.” Same basic concept. Try to figure it out yourself first, then you can ask. In the end, yeah, I totally agree that newbies shouldn’t be helping newbies. I can’t for the life of me understand why someone would think it was even remotely okay. You don’t have a firm grasp of the knowledge yet. Point the needy person to a founder or a story teller that has helped you in the past. I point people to Julie, Jen, Mike, and Mish all the time! Why? Because these are the people that have helped me. They’re the people who have exhibited superior knowledge of the game. I’m glad you posted this, Jen. Very. I would hate to have been one of the unfortunate people to be led around by someone who had no idea what they were doing… But honestly, I think the person accepting the help is just as much at fault. Take the time, people, to ask for a founder or a story teller or other knowledgeable person. It isn’t that hard, and you’ll be much happier with your progress! ![]() |
by Tessa Poe on October 4th, 2011, 9:53 am
by Bolden Denusk on October 4th, 2011, 4:11 pm
by Verilian on October 4th, 2011, 6:42 pm
So back when I used to play DnD we had quite a large group of players. Many of them fluctuated in availability, some were there for just one session while we also had a permanent group. I am very experienced at teaching "newbies" how to play a game. Now.. when I first started playing DnD I bought the Monster Manual, Player's Handbook, and Dungeon Master Guide. I read every single word of all three books, even the monsters, before I ever held my first dungeon. I taught my friends how to play, and I taught their friends, and even now I am called on to teach because I know the game better than any of them. I may not know every little detail, or all the new information that is out there today, but I know the game. Where am I going with this? Out of the 20+ people I taught to play, our core group only had four members. These members were the only four who also read, at the very least, the Player's Handbook word for word. I'm pretty sure they also read the other two books, but at the very least they read the Player's Handbook. All of it. They are the ones I still play with today. The others, when they do play, have to come back to me and basically relearn the game every single time. Why? Because they didn't read the book. Read your lore, people, otherwise you will never learn the game. I spent two months before I ever made my first character reading lore. Do I know the game completely? Hell no. Have I done things against the rules? Yes. But, have I ever been accused of being lazy or cheating my way through the game? No? I'm not saying don't ask for help. Sometimes you just might not understand something, or as everyone else has said maybe you just need some clarification. But don't come whining to me if you haven't read the lore. My answer will be in the form of links anyway, unless it is something that can be answered with a simple yes or no. I'm going to make you read if you want an answer from me, so you might as well read to begin with. This is the Writer's RPG. Writers read. |
by Gossamer on October 6th, 2011, 4:35 pm
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by Bolden Denusk on October 6th, 2011, 6:32 pm
by Cachet on October 8th, 2011, 10:20 pm
Crowbar All you need for all your problems, big, small, or Miz Related |
by Gossamer on October 9th, 2011, 7:35 pm
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