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Postby Bolden Denusk on November 3rd, 2011, 3:57 pm

<3 <3 SNAPE!!! <3 <3 There. Had to get that out.

I'm brand new to the whole wrimo thing so, like you, I'm in the middle. I have a different outlook on it though. To me it's not word 'vomit.' To me it's permission to utterly, selfishly lose myself in writing! :D Like someone saying, go ahead and have that last piece of succulent pie! I've never given a flying petch about word count before and it's just plain weird to grab my calculator after rping for the sheer joy of it and ick! do math after writing like a punishment.

I feel the guilt (recovering irish catholic childhood) of shameless indulging myself in spates of writing/rping happiness to the exclusion of all else! That I'm being naughty feeling, but it's shared with a bunch of others.

Maybe you shouldn't blame wrimo or people in chat about your lack of muse. I personally think that you, the sweetie pie, Jules are suffering the same guilt that I am. Coz if you indulge yourself so much then it's wrong or naughty to only concentrate on what -you- want, yes? So I don't think that wrimo on here is necessarily a bad thing and that your writing isn't what's 'going downhill.'

Personally, I think you're feeling as guilty as I do for indulging in some selfish -me- time. *hugs n noms n offers cookies with red sprinkles* You're gonna be ok hon, there there.
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Postby Oracle on November 3rd, 2011, 4:25 pm

Oracle - Nano Woes and response


OMG, I want the shirt...but that aside:

I know what you mean on the whole nano thing. I think it also depends on how you approach it. If you are doing the regular NaNo then those words are not on display, word vomit is somewhat allowed provided you really do plan to follow through and edit the every living crap out of everything. NaNo on here is a while other beast, these words are public and should be thought about more carefully. I don't think NaNo is an excuse for your forum writing to go down hill for more than one reason.
  • We are writers.
  • We should never bastardize the reason we came here in the first place.

The regular NaNo is challenge to get people writing who otherwise did not have the motivation and it's a challenge to writers as well but mostly I feel it is geared towards the first group: people who have played around with the idea but never really followed through.

Here on Mizahar we are writers, that's why we are here. We love it, eat it, breath it in. We love to write and we also enjoy creative and original ideas. This puts us (hate to sound a but elitist here) a step above those who are doing NaNo for the first time.

I love the whole idea of doing a MizaNano because it will bring people back to the site and promise fun for all...but no one should ever forget what brought them here in the first place. :)

I can tell from reading your scrap that you too understand that and indeed yourself love writing...but as far as feeling your writing has gone down hill let me ask you a question: Are the people you are playing with and yourself having fun? Is this still what it was for you in the beginning? Do you still enjoy yourself as you spend that time pounding out letters on the keyboard to paint a wondrous and beautiful picture for others and yourself to read and live? If you still feel that sense of accomplishment every time you have a thread graded and have bettered your character, if you still feel challenged to solve your IC problems creatively and are happy with the results...then I would not worry about it so much. :)

You are an amazing writer and I am sure other's get just as much enjoyment out of your postings now as they did then. Personally you are a favorite of mine to stalk and there is a reason for that. :)

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Postby Aidara on November 3rd, 2011, 6:25 pm



I found the most amazing website for creating seamless background images. I am probably going to be making a bunch and changing them around until I find one that I like.

Lisa- *Huggles and kisses* Snape is my favorite, by far. And as you well know, there is no need to feel guilty indulging in something that you like. Writing is one of the best things you can indulge in! It makes you better! It makes you more well versed, it makes you more eloquent and a bunch of other stuff! No guilt! Especially since it's not like you're indulging in pounds of chocolate every day. :)

Secondly, I don't have a lack of muse. I don't know if that came across in my scrap or if I said it accidentally but lately I've actually been pretty confident in my writing topics and ideas. And I would never blame it on chat :O I actually don't go into chat very often anymore because I realize how much of a distraction it is. For the weeks that I sat in chat, my number of posts went downhill. I just cannot see that little tab flashing at the top of my browser and not look at it. :P So that is why no one ever sees me in chat anymore.

Thirdly, I don't blame NaNo. I wasn't blaming it for anything at all. I was stating my feelings about it and what I had gathered from reading blogs and articles on the internet about how other people felt about NaNo. I agree with some things said, and that was about the extent of it. I love NaNo, like I said, it gives me goals. I like goals.

*Shares the cookies and coffee as well* You are a sweetheart though, and your response made me smile. Maybe I am feeling a little guilty and didn't even realize it, but you noticed it. I'll have to think about that, because it could be why I'm acting so hard on myself. I appreciate your words of comfort. I was feeling down about my writing but not so much anymore. <3

Oracle- It's a sweatshirt. But that makes it even better, right?!

And you're right about the regular NaNo. I didn't think about the fact that people are writing and not posting their words immediately. That actually puts me more into the "love it" camp. And you also make a good point about who and why people would join the regular NaNo, I also didn't think about that. But on the same hand it makes me want to push people on here to try harder and not just get the words out. People in chat were talking about this being a competition, a race, a contest. It made me really sad and somewhat irritated at the same time. Why? Because it's none of those things. It might be a personal contest but it is most surely not a contest among us writers. I personally think that once writing becomes a competition it is no longer fun.

I still get that sense of accomplishment when I write and complete a thread. I have tons of fun with my thread partners so that isn't an issue. You, like Ron and Malin and Lisa, are right and I just need to chill out. I guess I am just hoping that if I can't figure out where my writing fails, I'll have someone that will notice something I can improve and point it out for me.

To think that I am a favorite of anyones just boosted my confidence tenfold. Thank you for that, it made me grin stupidly and even blush a little bit. I do write for myself, but I also assume that no one except my threading partners ever read my writings. It's a failing of mine, this lack of self confidence but... Still, thank you <3

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Postby Aidara on November 3rd, 2011, 6:45 pm

For those of you who are wondering what the hell my sweatshirt is about...it, as it has been pointed out to me, "bends the fabric of nerd reality".


In the original Star Wars IV: A New Hope, Han shoots Greedo the bounty hunter. It was later changed to look like Greedo shoots Han first so that Han would be shooting in self defense. When the change occured to make Han look better to fans, Nerd Rage transpired.



Snape killed Dumbledor, I love Star Wars and Harry Potter, saw the sweatshirt, had to have it, end of story. :)
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Postby Sira on November 4th, 2011, 3:31 am

So I've been sick all day trying to force myself to write. I could probably be writing a post write now instead of responding to this scrap, but I know that it would turn out like crap right now so I just said screw meeting my word quota for the day, laid on the couch watching the Office all day long, and now I'm gonna go to bed. Assuming that I feel better tomorrow I'll do some writing.. and I have no idea where my point went, lol.

Anyway, I just figured I would give my opinion on this whole Nano thing. I remember a while back I saw a thread having to do with it, I glanced at it because I think Jen posted in it and I usually read things she posts, and I read the first few sentences, said it wasn't for me, and moved on with my life. I thought it sounded stupid. If I am going to write a novel, I don't want it to be something I forced out in one month. So I didn't even want to read the rest of the post.

Then I heard about the Miz Nano whatever we are calling it. Completely different opinion on that. I'm sure some people will exploit it, but with me I saw it as a challenge. And plus I like medals. But more importantly, Jules was doing it and if she was doing it then I was totally down for it. She wants to crank out 50000 words? Awesome! That means I get to read 50000 words worth of posts from her! And I get to respond to 50000 words of posts from her. Jules, think what you want about your writing, but I love it. I didn't know you when you first came to the site, so I can't say anything about how you used to write, but I can say that I look forward to every single one of your posts. I'm sorry if you feel they aren't good enough anymore, but if you want to improve them.. that just excites me even more. So if you need any help or advice, you know I'm just a text away.

Anyway.. I have a fever, and I just wanted to say something before I passed out. Keep writing, keep being awesome, and if this is "downhill" for you then I can't wait to see your climb back up.
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Postby Bolden Denusk on November 4th, 2011, 9:15 pm

Well said Sira! I'm positive that you and I aren't the only fans of Jules' writing! <3 :D It's a wondrous event to enjoy reams and reams of favorite writers on here, so post Jules, post Sira!!
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Postby Aidara on November 6th, 2011, 1:19 am

Appreciation


You know, as a person I don't think I am very demanding. I require very little to be done for me as a daughter, girlfriend, friend, whatever. I may need help, yes, but once I figure something out I can do it for myself. I don't require my friends to be anyone they're not, do anything they don't want to do and the same goes for anyone else in my life. I love you for who you are. If I don't love who you are, I'm not going to try and change you, I'm just probably not your friend, or at least not a close friend. That sounds stuck up but what I mean is... I'm friends with people because I like them and who they are. I am not friends with people because I think it's cool or because everyone else likes them.

On World of Warcraft, for example, I was friends with people who were genuinely hated by others, but that didn't make me stop liking what I did about them because someone else didn't. I've been friends with people who hate each other and while that is a shame and sometimes got in the way of being friends because they couldn't understand why I liked the other person and just wouldn't let it go, it didn't stop me from being friends with one or the other.

I like to be liked. Everyone does. I think if I lived in a world where no one liked me, it would make me think about who I was as a person and ask myself why no one can stand to be around me. But that isn't the case.

I like to be listened too. My opinion matters. I might not know everything about every topic, but that doesn't matter. I doubt spout ignorant shit and I only really open my mouth when I know what I am talking about. If I have a conversation with someone about rocket science and I don't know the first thing about rocket science, I will listen, learn and then perhaps go research so I can formulate my own opinion and next time I encounter that person, we can have an actual discussion.

I will never tell you your opinion is wrong, disregard you because you think one way and I think the other. If you have an idea, I will listen to and consider it. I will not ever just go with what I think because it was my idea. People have better ideas than me- all the time. People know more things than I do. People are smarter than me, nicer than me, prettier than me, shorter than me... whatever.

So, stating all of that about myself, is it so fucking ridiculous to think that I want to be treated the same way? Now, I don't mean everyone I interact with need to be exactly like me, but show me some damn respect. I have give people the respect they diserve, the respect I'd want to be shown, until they prove they otherwise don't deserve it.

I don't think anything I listed above is out of control insane and impossible for another person to achieve.

Frankly, I am tired. I am so tired of these people I live with. This must be rant 50 or so on them. They are just so opposite me. I am emotional, yes, but I would never, ever yell at someone just because they didn't do everything I asked. I would never ever turn it into an argument. My parents never did that to me. If my mom asked me to clean the kitchen and something else I had to do got in the way, she would just take it in stride and either wait till I could do it or do it herself. These people aren't understanding or considerate, really.

Okay so I guess I'm done beating around the bush. This is what I am pissed about:

I feel like I don't have a voice. I am stifled and downtrodden. Which is weird, because they treat me like the favorite child. I never get in trouble, I can really do nothing wrong. But I see family dynamics that I would otherwise not, being only Ian's girlfriend. So it's an odd situation that I try to detach myself from and cannot.

Yet, these loud and opinionated people try and try and try to make sure that THEY are the ones that are heard. They don't listen to each other. They talk AT each other, all four of them, and then get mad later when so-and-so didn't do what whom-ever asked.... because NONE of them were listening. None.

So, I happen to know quite a bit about animals. I'm not a pro, I've never really worked hands on with them for very long and most of my knowledge has come from other people, university courses, reading and some first hand experience. When something happens in this house to one of the 6 dogs or 4 cats or 4 birds, they ask me.

And then they don't listen to what I say.

Not only that, but when I make a specific request or share a bit of information that I know, I am smiled and nodded at and then ignored as soon as I turn my god damn back.

First Issue: My dog, Polly. She's overweight. Why? Because people food is fed, excess treats are given.

Me: Hey, everyone, can we please stop giving Polly treats? She really doesn't need them. I'll take her from the room when the others get them, just let me know. She won't even know she's missing out.

Everyone: Yes, sure. We'll let you know.

....Bullshit. My request is ignored. Now, if you don't know anything about Dachshunds, they bond to their human. I'm Polly's human and so no matter what, she comes to me. She follows me around she sleeps with me she sits on my lap over everyone else's. Except when food is around. Because she was mistreated and used as a breeding dog at a breeders house, she is really obsessive about food because it was restricted from her. So she will eat any and everything in front of her. Food is the only thing she will leave my side for. And everyone knows it.

Me: Gene, can you please not give Polly any snacks. I'm trying to get her to lose weight and I don't get to walk her every day like I'd like too, so the treats are kind of undoing all of my hard work.

Gene: Sure, I won't give her any snacks.

Me: Awesome! I appreciate it

*Five minutes later* Polly runs into where I am sitting typing this...with a god damn 5 inch long chicken strip snack thing that they feed them in her mouth. So now I have to be the bad guy that takes the treat FROM her and throws it away. Soon, she won't even run to me anymore when she has food because she is going to realize I take them away.

I am blatantly and almost condescendingly ignored.

Second issue: When I talk, I am ignored.

It's just rude. Andy asks a question to no one in particular "Hey, what's the name of the 13th state?" (That wasn't the actual question, I don't remember what it was now with this massive anger vein pumping in my forehead). Me "Rhode Island." Then he says nothing, and his mom walks into the room. "Hey Mom, what's the 13th state?"

I know he heard me. We were sitting five feet apart. But I was totally ignored. And this isn't the first time it happens. It happens all the time with everyone except Ian. I've given up trying to tell stories or share information that I know because no one listens. It's not just in my head, I'm not over reacting... No. One. Listens.

Now the whole house is complaining because ALL the animals have fleas. Ians' mom keeps giving them flea dips and flea baths, but it's making it worse and just drying their skin out. So I tell her that, and she says okay I won't do it anymore. What is she doing right now? Giving them a flea dip and a flea bath.

So I say, "Well, we can flea bomb the whole house but the animals all need to go outside for a few hours. Every room needs a bomb and you have to pick everything up off the floor. At the same time, we need to give them Advantage or Frontline or whatever brand onto the actual dogs. You need to do this all at once or you'll never completely get rid of fleas." This had been backed up by any vet you'll talk too. So they agree, yeah, yeah, cut me off and start talking over me before I even finish, like they know what they have to do.


So they flea bomb Andy's room and my room, give polly and 2 other dogs the flea meds........

REALLY?! Really. And now they're complaining at me that my method doesn't work and blaming me cause they wasted this money. But they didn't listen. They didn't take my advice or even completely listen to my advice.

The problem is, I have siad this more than once. I must have gone over this four or five times with them now.

It's little things like what I described above snowballing and building up and building up until I just feel like I don't even matter. I don't have any friends to hang out with in person other than Ian. Either I have never met them or they live across the country.

I don't know what to do. I am not being heard, and it's slowly beating me down. I am strong person and I deal with a lot. I am in a some-what shitty situation that I am trying to make the best of. I am trying to adapt myself to all of this so that I can survive. Not change myself, but adapt.

I'm finding it hard to adapt to being unheard and treated like what I have to say doesn't matter and no one gives a shit.


Not only that, but they all talk about each other. Mom complains about one son to the other son, Mom complains about the dad to the sons. The sons complain about each other to their parents, the dad complains and bitches about everyone to everyone else.

So what the FUCK are they saying behind my back? To live in a house that is supposed to be an adult family (The sons are in their later twenties. These aren't teenagers we're talking about) it is upsetting how much drama there is. Like I said above, I like to be liked, I like to be polite and treat people kindly because until they prove to me that they don't deserve it, why be mean?

These people are mean and catty. They're bitchy and self obsessed with no idea how an outsider (me) sees them. The things they bitch about, they also do and all of them are so hypocritical it makes me want to vomit.

This is why you should never live with your inlaws. Seriously.


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Postby Gossamer on November 6th, 2011, 1:52 am

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Jules, the Gods honest truth is your trying to fit this family into your perspective of what's right and decent and true. While everyone here will agree with you, there's no way your going to move into this family's house, change their dynamic, reform their fucked up thinking, and get them to do whats decent and right.

You aren't going to survive this trying to do that.

The reality is you are a social butterfly used to a healthy family dynamic where you are treated with respect and the people around you are interested in what you have to say and trust you. This is not true with these people nor can you ever force them to trust and respect YOU because your views are so different than theirs.

This gives you two choices.

The first one isn't acceptable and that's to bend to their way of thinking, do what they do, and change who you are. The second survival technique is to understand please understand that no matter how right you are they aren't going to see it that way ever... and tough it out as the current dynamic understanding that its not YOUR fault they don't respect and accept you as part of the group no matter how much 'pretend' they play.

Get your education, save money, move out with Ian, and be free of it over time with a long term plan. If you can't simply deal with it, write Ian's family and his behavior with them off as a deal breaker, move home, and finish your education in RI with a family that really loves you. Conversely, talk Ian into going to RI with you and show him how normal people really live.
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Postby Aidara on November 6th, 2011, 2:11 am



Jen, I've told you this already but I wanted to put it here too. I love and respect the truth that you tell. Sometimes the "tough love" or "honest truths" that are hard to hear are the ones I need to hear. I am fine with being told that I am being silly or overly emotional or just plan stupid. As long as it's not done in a way intending to hurt me, I can take it.

And you're totally right. You have the outside perspective that I don't have. You can read my words and see what mistakes I am making while I accuse others of making mistakes. I think, even though I am 99% of the time too nice to say the things you do, that we do think alike. I always find myself agreeing with scraps you write, comments you make. More than once you've pointed out something I have said that you were about to say yourself and vice versa.

I appreciate your criticisms and I welcome them. The one above gave me an insight into what I was doing, as well as the confidence that I needed to know that I am not just being ridiculous.

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Postby Sira on November 6th, 2011, 2:46 pm

Yeah.. we tried the whole living with inlaws things, on both sides of the playing field. Kelsey's family is insane, and I say this only because Kelsey says it all the time. She hates living with her family, she moved to another state (and I followed) at 17 to get away from them. Her brother is disrespectful, her mom is an idiot, her dad is a deadbeat who moved out a long time ago, and only her sister is anything but crazy. But then again, her sister moved out also. But.. despite how much she hated being there, any time she goes back Kelsey instantly falls into that crazy family dynamic they have over there and she refuses to see it. She becomes just as petty and crazy as the rest of them.

So.. we lived with them for a little while, it was miserable for me and Kelsey didn't even realize that she had become one of her crazy family members again for the longest time, so when she did we moved in with my parents. My parents house is a lot calmer, there is never any yelling, no arguing, none of that... but we learned that my dad is the king of the house. I knew this growing up, but I never really looked at it as anything strange or wrong until Kelsey was living there also. She had her ways, he had his, and those ways inevitably crashed. Living there was just as miserable for kelsey as living with her family was for me. So.. we moved out again.

Can we afford it? Barely. Should we have waited? Probably. Do we care? No. Sometimes you just gotta get out. That is the best medicine, and I know that you aren't in any sort of position to do that, but keep your mind working toward it. Always focus on that light at the end of the tunnel, not the darkness around you. Always focus, and actually work toward, reaching that light. Look for jobs, encourage Ian to do the same, look at apartments, show Ian all these cool places you could live together and get the moving out bug into him as well. Make him want to move. Keep your mind focused on getting out, not what is going on in the house. Keep it focused on what will make you happy, not what makes you angry. That's my way of dealing with things. Maybe it wont work for you, but it's the best I've got.
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