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[Gossamer's Scrapbook] The Ethereal Canyon

Postby Bolden Denusk on January 11th, 2012, 4:03 pm

You are muchly loved. That is all.
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Postby Tabarnac on January 11th, 2012, 9:33 pm

I will admit that there were times when I was new to Mizahar that I thought you were a heinous bitch. Part of this was baggage: most of the games I've spent a lot of my blood, sweat, and tears in were run by women who took control because the people in charge started dropping for whatever reason, and then became despots (one even had the handle Despot, which should have been a big clue). Part of this was that both of us are passionate about our creation, and sometimes it's difficult to get two passions working well in tandem. And part of this was my own pride, having been playing and writing for ... a lot longer than some of things youngins (I love them, but you know what I mean...), and so why don't you, who don't know me from Adam, give me a mile when everyone else gets an inch?

But I am glad that we started talking on the phone, which has helped our communication online too since now we have a better idea of how text would probably sound if we were speaking it, and I'm just glad we didn't write each other off and miss out on a great opportunity for friendship and artistic collaboration.

Thanks for all your hard work, and if you start developing Karjin, I'm going to start developing Kenash or Claridon, and I won't ask permission this time!!
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Postby Oluse on January 11th, 2012, 9:53 pm

That was just beautiful. I really do hope to feel exactly that way some day. This inspires me.

I am very glad that contentment has found you in life. It's an amazing thing. Thank you for sharing.
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Postby Trident on January 11th, 2012, 9:54 pm

Jen, maybe it's because I pesterAIM you so much, but I feel like I've seen a side of you that Mizahar doesn't normally get to see. You're witty, funny and tough-as-nails. You're creative as hell and make me feel like I'm subpar about two times a day (and don't you dare apologize for that). You can be grumpy and gruff at times. But it's never unjustified. And anyways, can I be an ass sometimes? Totally, and I spend way more time as one than when you're grumpy and gruff. Sometimes, I just don't know how you do it!

I wish people would spend more time getting to know others before labeling them. If they did, they'd see you as the awesome, passionate, creative mad genius that you are.

And that's all I have to say of the matter.

Mele...it sounds so awesome. I remember when you added the gemstones to the wiki, and my mouth dropped. I even told you how amazed I was (and you told me to feel free to add to it - big mistake. I'm going to add a stone called Tridentstone, hehe) and the Mele that deals with them is going to also be awesome, I can just tell. Maybe my new little Konti, who's busy getting earthy in Cyphrus, can aspire to get that Gnosis...? We'll have to wait and see!

Plotting is crucial to an RP, I feel like. I love spinning out plots in Mizahar and I'm so excited for the plots other people have coming up. I promise to participate in as much of them as I can - like the Cytali one! *wink wink*

And I totally get what you mean about creation. While I didn't create the Svefra, I feel as if I've added enough to them to the point where I feel proud when I see Svefra-y stuff being done. It's just...so rewarding, y'know?

Well, I've run out of steam. Hopefully what I've said made since. (<-Totally meant to do that.) If not, I'm too lazy to come back an edit. So, yeah. Oh wait - one last thought...

...if you guys are taking Kenash, Karjin, and Claridon, I so totally claim Novallas!

What? It has a cool name.
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Postby Caelum on January 11th, 2012, 11:17 pm

Kenash, Kenash, Kenash.

*bounce, bounce, bounce*

You're gonna love it, I swear. And eeee, static. You rocked that out hard. Most awesome. I'm, uh, gonna go work on all this development now...

*grabs Dani and runs*
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Postby Verilian on January 11th, 2012, 11:29 pm

Jen, once again your scrap.. has inspired me to scrap. Stop that! Lol.. but there will be one tonight. And I agree, creation is awesome. I still would love the opportunity to develop Xy, or help with it, if that day ever comes. I don't do much creation in Ravok because it's already pretty awesome. But I create plots and quests for people, and every time I come up with a new plot idea I get that same kick you are talking about. Actually... A lot of my plots are about to be brought to light now that I have an AS to share them with. And thanks for nudging me on that one, he is awesome. And lastly..

Go Jen! *fireworks and stuff*
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Postby Gossamer on January 16th, 2012, 6:02 pm

The ST's asked me to repost this so you guys can read it.

Hi Storytellers!

First off... if you want to give a PC a job, that's great, but please pay them off the job list. If the job isn't listed on the profession via the Price List, please request Gillar add it and ask a founder for a quote for the job if you are not sure what a job should pay. Do not extrapolate what you think it would be worth because PC X is GREAT at this group of skills etc. Just pay them the base price off the price list.

Then, add in their skill bonus for the skill that they need to run the job. For example, if your running a business you need Leadership or Business management. If your dealing cards, you need card dealing XP. If you are busking, you need a musical talent. If you are a tattoo artist, you need tattooing. Healers need healing skills or medicine, and if a chef is cooking, then they need the cooking skill.

You can't take a skill, even if its sort of related, and use it for a level bonus. For example, if a pc is selling wigets in a shop, you don't get to use persuasion to boost the skill (or heaven forbid seduction) and get a level bonus to the PC's paycheck. You instead have to use business management or leadership. If you are a blacksmith, you can't use your rhetoric to talk 'marks' into buying better armor than they need and thus use rhetoric for your skill bonus when you need blacksmithing to make the stuff.

All bonus' are based off the skill being used and what they are being paid for.

This seems to be a huge point of confusion when it comes to jobs. In individual threads, things like assisting skills use is fine (persuasion to make a sale) , but in general for a job you need that skill required to complete that job for a salary paycheck.

That leads me to job threads and seasonal salaries. I think most of you have some misconceptions about jobs and seasonal salaries.

A seasonal salary and seasonal experience points are two different things and while they are often awarded together, they shouldn't be considered together. What in the heck do I mean?

They are both designed so PCs can earn a living at their profession and enrich their RP experiences. How? A job is designed to be an rp backdrop for that PC which holds a job. When I say a PC has to rp their job to get their seasonal xp, then I mean they have to use their job as a backdrop and do threads in which their job is preformed.

What I see storytellers doing is requiring two or three job threads a season and then seemingly double awarding XP for first the thread then the seasonal XP. No no no! ST's seem to combine these two things, which should be totally different, into one singular request.

Lets have some examples:

Sarah is a busker. A busker is someone that stands on a street corner and plays music with a can out or an open guitar case in which she gets donations for her playing. Now, Sarah should earn a base salary of 4 gm a day for performing. To get this coin, she has to talk about busking, set other threads in the busking scenario (Say almost get hit in the street by a run away carriage or get stolen from and chase the thief), but she doesn't have to actually busk. She just uses the busking as a backdrop. These threads earn her the seasonal XP for busking even though shes not actually performing in them. She's not really busking in them, but she's being a busker and using that busking lifestyle as a backdrop.

Now.. Sarah needs a few job threads for a salary. She does a busking thread where she works a festival and gets some requests asked of her. Then maybe she works a really bad day where its pouring down rain and she gets no tips or really has to struggle to stay at work. IN this thread she's awarded XP for the Busking in the form of the musical instrument or performance etc... and these two threads count for seasonal salary. They do not, however, count for her seasonal XP because she already got busking XP for doing them.

Where most ST's make the mistake is that the second scenario is required and awarded both coin and XP seasonally. Why? She got XP already for busking/musical instrument/performance.. why give her double? In the first scenario she was trying to busk but got run over by a carriage or ended up having an adventure chasing a thief.

See the difference? Don't double XP threads up. Require people to show threads where they use their job as a backdrop.

Another example we'll use is from an actual trio of players. Victor/Seven/Laz all own a tavern together. Say to get their seasonal wage, they need to actually do threads where they are running, cleaning, storytelling in the Sun and Stars about the sun and stars and their work. They also earn bartending or flunky XP in this thread. To earn their seasonal XP they need to set threads in the Sun and Stars (or talking to buyers where they end up having an adventure) where they arent' actually doing the job but using the job as a backdrop.

Say Laz and Seven get into a huge knockdown drag out fight over how Laz is sloppily cleaning glassware. He's not actually doing this lazy half-assed wipe-down of the glasses in the thread, they are just fighting over it. Victor then drags Seven upstairs to distract him from being such a hardass on Laz who's naturally lazy and won't change... and they have some pillow talk where Victor calms Seven down or maybe even accidentally murder an innocent widow and her children after hitting the town. Since they feel better, apologies are passed out and they all celebrate surviving their first season being open on the anniversary of Sun and star's opening by baking each other cakes and gifting each other with kittens. This is worth seasonal XP!

Do you guys understand the difference? Dont' require both in one, double up XP, and cut corners. Really stress the idea to players that they earn their salary by doing their job, but they get job XP by using their job as a way of identifying their pcs and using it as a backdrop to who they are.
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Postby Gossamer on January 16th, 2012, 6:08 pm

This question has come up a couple fo times so I thought I'd reiterate it here.

Even if a profession is considered uber special in your domain, like its the most exulted profession ever, it still needs to pay what what the price list says. You can add a level bonus if people have L2, L3, or L4 levels in that skill. The Price List explains how to add this bonus. If a person owns their own business and doesn't work for someone else, at their BASE rate, you can in fact add a 20% bonus to their wage. This isn't added EACH level, this is only added at the base rate.

Some of you might wonder why we are doing this and maybe thinking this is restrictive or crazy, but believe me I think its perfect. We came from a game that allowed ST's to decide who made what where and why, and this resulted in outrageous businesses that weren't rp'd at all. One example that came to mind was a guys rice ball business that had a 'cart' in every city (he never paid employees, never rp'd about this business, and all but ignored it except to use it as a cash cow) and had an income of something like 1,000 gold a day. ST's gave their buddies in their own cities huge incomes while more fair ST's in other cities gave average folks they didn't know really low incomes.

This is a standardization that's FAIR and can't allow for abuses. If people work their businesses, they earn a fair wage.
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Postby Sira on January 17th, 2012, 9:49 pm

Okay, so I started writing this as a joke between me and Jules, but this totally needs to be added to the wiki so Sira can become a master.

Lovemaking


Novice: A novice lovemaker has had sex a few times, with one or two partners. They have not experimented much, rarely going beyond traditional positions and oral sex. For a male, they usually finish early and have trouble bringing their partner to climax. For a woman this means that she often brings the man to climax early during foreplay and has trouble finding the right rhythm during sex to bring the most pleasure.

Competent: A competent lovemaker has usually had multiple partners, or has been with the same person and experimented a lot. They are skilled in most common positions, and a few requiring a bit of creativity. They have experimented with non-traditional maneuvers, and possibly delved into the taboo. For a male, competent lovemaking means no more early climax, lasting longer, and bringing his partner to climax more often and on rare occasions more than once. For a woman this means she knows how to tease a man in foreplay without fear of ending things prematurely, and how to manipulate her body to get the most out of a lovemaking session.

Expert: It is very rare to find an expert lovemaker who has only been with one partner. Experts are familiar with almost every move in the book, masters of multiple orgasm, and capable of going all night long if they want to. An expert lovemaker has tried everything and is willing to try everyone. There usually is no such thing as taboo for an expert, and these people most often have professions that put their skills to good use.

Master: The things a master of lovemaking has done would make even Nikali blush. Masters have been with countless partners over their life (and often at the same time) and are masters of the art of pleasure through sex. Flexible, full of endurance, and capable of anything. Masters can even come up with new and exotic techniques, and are able to bring anyone to that magical moment, over and over again.
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Postby Tabarnac on January 18th, 2012, 5:40 am

This is highly amusing, but my very real worry is that I'm going to have to read and award XP to a whole lot of crappy porn... And crappy porn is very crappy...
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