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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Artur on July 22nd, 2013, 9:47 pm

Greetings and Hail Syliras!

Artur here hasn't had much activity but that will change now, and I would love to do some threads with him exploring the city and learning about everything it has to offer. To those of you who don't know Artur, he is a Kelvic Brown Bear with a passion for food and cooking and a boundless curiosity to learn everything there is to know about the world.

In the signature you'll find two links, one his CS the other his Plotnotes, both up to date by the end of today! Pm me if you have an idea or would just like to thread a meeting with the bear!

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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Radiant on July 23rd, 2013, 1:32 am

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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Matthew on July 26th, 2013, 12:28 pm


Is anyone really interested in the political scene of Syliras? I may very well need some correction by a mod here, but I was interested in taking some steps to have more of a citizen voice in the city. If you check out the politics of Syliras, it is obvious that the Knights are the one in control. Really obvious.

However, there is some citizen voice in how Syliras is run on some level. The Council of Three has one member that represents the people (Grace Njimi). While that member is the High Councilor, she is still only one voice. From what I can tell, she doesn't have any support in the political scene at all. It is her versus the Knights. Soon, Nehim Irandel will be retiring, and who knows how the scene could shift then. If the new member is anything like Fredir Stalinsa, then that spells an even stiffer hand wrapped around the Syliras populace.

So, I was curious in exploring the possibility of getting a little more citizen involvement in the political scene of Syliras. Even if it is just a facade, or a group to support the High Councilor, I thought it might be interesting to do something.

With the recent appearance of the Knight and all these whispers of corruption, how wise is it to blindly trust a Oligarchy (or Military Dictatorship) anyways? The people must want to at least feel like they have a way to see what is going on. Is this something that anyone would want to explore, as well as being something that mods are willing to explore/think is possible to explore? There are multiple angles I thought about approaching this at, including:

  • As the Rogue Knight appears more and more, and rumors spread, who is to say that the Knights aren't using this as a method of stricter punishment outside of their own established laws? Even if they are only rumors, they are well-known, and the Knights seem to be turning a blind eye. Has it really been wise to leave these things up to the Knights, and simply trust what they say and do? Or, on the flip side, why is this Knight doing such a good job at punishing the corruption, and why is there even so much if the real Knights are doing what they are supposed to do?
  • Grace must be tired. Unless I can't find it, she doesn't have any support. Perhaps she would like even the simplest sign of support and offer of help from citizens of Syliras who simply want the best for the city.

Obviously not a mutiny or rebellion, merely a desire and attempt to have more presence than simply one person. Random ideas, and they might be completely shot down and not at all possible to pursue. I just enjoy politics, diplomacy, and all that sort of stuff.

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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Accolade on July 26th, 2013, 6:52 pm

Hail Syliras!

Matthew I'm loving the interest in the politics of Syliras, there were two others I've been talking with who also wanted to explore this more and I'm glad to see it. SO I'm going to try and have this make sense, but if I confuse anyone, feel free to ask here or in a PM about anything being written.

First lets talk about the citizen voice in the city, If no one here remembers, or has read. The people in Syliras do have a voice. Now I know that the lore page can be confusing, so allow me to clear this up. Lorens WILL see people who wish to speak with him and hear them out. However that doesn't mean he will give you what you want. The people do have a voice though. So it comes to this, what are you asking? What do you want from them?

This is an important thing to think about IC wise. Because the Knights have been here a very long time and they've seen a lot and learned from it. All generous, or nice ideas aren't always good for the people as whole, and they have to think of this with each request. If you're PC is upset because the Knights won't allow them on their training grounds, well let's think it over. If they did, your PC shows up and gets beaten and embarrassed, said PCs next claim is going to be the Knights brutalized me. See where I'm going?

Or just for the sake of a good chuckle, lets just say that your PC is the badass that you want them to be and they go in and beat every single Knight with a flick of their wrist, what then? I'll tell you what, the people will lose faith in their protectors and then they will come to you with all their problems and expect YOU to fix things. And what will happen if you don't?" Well..that makes you corrupt doesn't it?

Another example, say your PC is pissed because the Knights won't let your kelvic walk around naked, flaunting all that hot kelvic flesh for all to see. Well, if they did the next complaint is going to be rape, or that your kelvic has too many kids now and you want to put half of them into the shelter. See how this goes? See, the people have a voice, you just have to think it through. Now the thing's that won't change is punishment and the way that races are treated. This will not bend. But given the fact that we have Akalak, Eth, even Dhani in the Knights means that they are more than just tolerant as people seem to think.

So the question stands, the people have a voice, but they aren't using it, so why? PCs aside, there are many in the city who are content with their lives as they are. Sure it's not perfect, but Syliras is slave free, not only that they don't allow people to slum on the streets and they make sure that all can earn money so that they can eat. That's more than you can say for a lot of places. In the city, the people get it, they live there. Outside? They don't know what's out there and they don't care too. Rule of thumb, most NPCs (city people) aren't adventurers. That's why PCs in any game are so special because they do what most won't.

So to recap, the people do have a voice, use it well.

Now, let's talk OOC IC for a second. It is completely fine for your PC ICly to believe that they don't have a voice. I was just explaining that for everyone to understand OOCly.

On to the political scene, and while we're at it, let's talk voices too shall we?
So..we have Lorens Dyres and Petri Alvikal, and the Knights at the top, the Council of Three all the untouchables. There are the families of the ruling Knights, Nigriso, Brock, Braklin, Stalinsa, Druva, and Trema. These people also have extended families and those that don't become Knights as well.

Now below that, we have the Illythian District, these include some of the extended families mentioned above as well as rich people. Some of them aren't born in Syliras but came there and made their name in trade or some other way, but many are born and raised with the silver spoon.

and Last, you have everyone else. The commoners and the poor. This is how the city is setup and explains who is where in the political scene. Note that every one I mentioned isn't involved in political drama, but that would be their level of excess or voice if they chose too. But now we see where everyone is and why they are there. If you don't see it I'll explain, reputation is a key point. You must be someone to own a voice that others will listen too.

Now, let's talk corruption. WOOT! Everyone loves the idea of corrupt Knights trying to hold down the good people of Syliras. Well let's explore this. We all know that there are all kinds of rumors going about ICly. But let's step to OOC again for second. The first talk of corruption started in the Illythian District, from the inside. This isn't anything new though, for years the people there have been having secret meanings to try and find a way to get their voice to the right person. So, IC your PC is allowed to believe any of the rumors that they want, but just so we all know OOC, that's where it began.

Now..the Rogue Knight!! He's coming all, he really is. So the question was, why the Knights haven't done anything, searched out the rumors and such? Well it is because, they have gotten any word of trouble involving the Knight from the Konti seer's or from the Windoak, so as far as they know, he's not real. BUT, If your PC wants to believe that the Knights just aren't doing anything, that is fine also. So this also raises the question, if the Windoak and Seers don't see a threat, then maybe the Knight is doing good?

This is all things that can be worked out, investigated IC, and possibly big quest could be in the future. I would love to see this explored and to see more people join in. So I'm sure the next question will be HOW can a PC gain a voice that people will listen too. ACT, that is the best way that I can think of. Show the people that you are a man of your word and that you care about them, and that you are not just seeking to better your own life. Help the city with their problems, work for a reputation that says you are honorable, get on the good side of people who will support you.

Side note: Don't get Accolade talking about Syliras because he can't stop.
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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Shiress on July 26th, 2013, 7:51 pm

Can you explain all that again, Acco, I didn't quite get it :p
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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Matthew on July 26th, 2013, 7:52 pm



Thank you for the detailed post, that helps a ton. That is what I was looking for when I posted some random IC assumptions that could be made to stir up political drama, and then you come and post three times as many as well as tons of other tidbits of info. Very much appreciated. :)

Even though I am one of the ones jumping up and trying to stir the political pot, I am not actually so sure how involved my own character could be. In short, he is a prostitute, and that can ruin credibility. I would definitely like to explore stuff exactly like Accolade mentioned though, so anyone should PM or post if they think we can work out some threads.

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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Isolde Seibold on July 26th, 2013, 7:52 pm

I still think the Rogue Knight is an extension of the Windoak... even more so after reading what happened to the Tree during the Djed Storm... >.> *suspicious*

And I quote: "One creature, though, did not mourn the djed storms. The Windoak delighted in the wild magic, and the knights who were able to understand the difference would note that it seemed even more powerful. And in the coming months, it would begin to take a much more active roll in rebuilding Syliras."

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[Syliras' OOC Thread] The Calm within the Storm

Postby Accolade on July 26th, 2013, 8:42 pm

I love it when you all stir the pot, it makes things so much more fun and exciting. Now then, I don't think any of the PCs have enough credit or coin to really hold a voice, but playing it out IC is the best way to go. You can start with rumors and things you've heard and take it from there.

Also there are Mages still showing off here and there and Ghost who can't behave, so really there are many ways to show your commitment to the city. I mention this because there are magic sympathizers in the city, people who think that magic should be allowed to be practiced openly and for everyone. Then there is the rest who think that is insane, so pick a side, make a point?
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Postby Ana Sol Starris on July 26th, 2013, 10:55 pm

Lol I'm totally a magic sympathizer. :P
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Postby Fubuki Kouri on July 27th, 2013, 1:11 am

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