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Reimancy questions

Postby Pjeil on November 25th, 2013, 6:48 am



Mainly interested in knowing how earth reimancy works, but I have questions that touch on other aspects of the skill.


Earth
  • Is there a "Default" Earth that is created when transmuting to earth?
    As an ametuer geologist, this point is of particular interest. Though, for most this probably isn't necessary to play the skill.
  • Can reimancry differentiate from the different kinds of stones out there? For instance Marble or Schist versus Granite or Microline.
  • If one can, how does one learn new types of earth? Does one use the geology skill/auristics or can one take the instinctual approach and just be familiar or around a particular subset of stone to be able to manifest it. (The Kalean mountain ranges would have different species of stone than the stone under Cyphrus plains and perhaps a reimancer might be more attuned to either depending on where they were born or learned the skill.)
  • Can reimancy differentiate between soil/sand/clay and stones (Igneous, Sedimentary and Metamorphic)?
  • If it can, would transmuted soil be mainly mineral sediment or could it be closer to what Hummus is for fertile soil?
  • While transmuting pure or alloyed metals seems like it would be out of the question, what about transmuting orestone? Such as Hematite (iron) or Galena (Silver and Lead).
  • Similarly, what about gems, would it be possible for an earth reimancer to make these kinds of stones too?
  • Would it be harder to make a diamond or easier to make the softer quartz or turquoise?

Fire
  • Is it possible to transmute/attract fire in different colors and intensities? For instance a potassium burn for a purple color or magnesium for an intense, white light. I suppose what it comes down to is, can one's res be primed to be react to attracted fire this way and likewise be primed to transmute into these colors?

Water
  • Is this element strictly water? Or can other liquids be created like ammonia?

Air
  • Can the composition of the transmuted air be altered? For instance spreading one's res throughout a small room and converting it into mainly CO2, or breath, to suffocate. Or conversely convert a confined space's used up air into fresh, breathable, standard air mix.

Transmutation and Para-Elements
  • How does converting one element to another work? For instance, Kavala mentioned that she used earth and air reimancry to carve but I feel that I am missing an important part of the concept that the lore does not cover. Perhaps a link to a thread as an example?
  • Would dust, sand or soil be considered a para-element (Air-earth) or would that just fall under earth?


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Reimancy questions

Postby Shiyami on November 26th, 2013, 12:07 am

I can only answer one of the points. The rest, I have only speculations, and therefore will not answer them.

The one where you asked, about the concept of how para-elements work, can be quite similar to a sped up version of how the para-element is formed naturally. Take ice for example. One would first create water, before using air to cool it down sufficiently for the water to freeze over. Or lava/magma, where the earth is melted via fire.

The example of Kavala's, can possibly be just two elements, working in tandem, but not combining. One could say she made the base of the carving with earth Reimancy, and then used air as a method to carve, or erode the earth, to form the carving.

However, if someone who is more knowledgable in the magics of Reimancy finds my answer wrong, then I probably need to retread the lores once again.
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Reimancy questions

Postby Gillar on November 26th, 2013, 12:03 pm

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Your questions are quite thought provoking and as such, got me to thinking :)

Before I tackle your questions, know that the Lore entries on many of the magical disciplines in Mizahar have been purposely left a little vague as a way to encourage players to get creative and experiment with the magic their character's use. Tarot created reimancy so of course he has the best insight into what would be possible with reimancy as a whole. That said, my answers to follow are based mainly on my own interpretation of reimancy and aren't meant to be right or wrong or binding in any official way. It's just how I see it.

Is there a "Default" Earth that is created when transmuting to earth?

I don't see an actual default Earth being created or transmuted to. It kind of depends on the nature of the reimancer. If someone is very attuned to the earth, nature, forests, and such, I can picture them primarily dealing with simple dirt. Those tied to the desert would likely deal with sand. Different types of soft or hard stone may be created or transmuted if the character is more of a hardy, mountain man type.

Can reimancry differentiate from the different kinds of stones out there? For instance Marble or Schist versus Granite or Microline.

As with the previous question, I would think this would depend on the reimancer's personality and what they are like as a person in general.

If one can, how does one learn new types of earth? Does one use the geology skill/auristics or can one take the instinctual approach and just be familiar or around a particular subset of stone to be able to manifest it. (The Kalean mountain ranges would have different species of stone than the stone under Cyphrus plains and perhaps a reimancer might be more attuned to either depending on where they were born or learned the skill.)

What said at the end of this question actually fits well with my answers to your first two questions. Where the reimancer is born and raised would likely influence the type of stone he would deal with. As for learning a new type of earth, I could see this becoming more involved if you so wished. Remember that reimancy is all about one's personal djed. That djed is going to materialize in so many different ways depending on the reimancer. If a reimancer is feeling particular lonely, isolated or even sad, they may focus more on hard stone over soft dirt. If they are particularly angry perhaps more volcanic types of rock.

Can reimancy differentiate between soil/sand/clay and stones (Igneous, Sedimentary and Metamorphic)? If it can, would transmuted soil be mainly mineral sediment or could it be closer to what Hummus is for fertile soil?

Not as much science as an art really. I see the reimancer being able to create or transmute earth that fits them in a particular way under different circumstances for different purposes. I don't imagine any real differentiating between the different types beyond altering to fit the reimancer.

While transmuting pure or alloyed metals seems like it would be out of the question, what about transmuting orestone? Such as Hematite (iron) or Galena (Silver and Lead). Similarly, what about gems, would it be possible for an earth reimancer to make these kinds of stones too?

This one is a little tricky. I can see various types of ore being possible but you are right, pure or alloyed metals would not be possible. Well, maybe they could be possible but it would involve creating it as a para-element of earth and fire and it would be extremely complicated. So overgiving becomes a certainty with such efforts causing medium overgiving at best with severe overgiving being a strong possibility. As for gems, I see them as being similar to the pure or alloyed metals. Earth reimancy could create raw gemstones in small quantities though they wouldn't be worth much by themselves. Precious stones such as diamonds would be much more difficult and would also induce overgiving due to the complexity.

Would it be harder to make a diamond or easier to make the softer quartz or turquoise?

Diamond would definitely be more difficult with severe overgiving being almost assured. Lesser gemstones would be easier though overgiving is still a threat if great care isn't taken. Of course, the higher your skill in reimancy, the easier it is to do more difficult things with less fear of overgiving.

Is it possible to transmute/attract fire in different colors and intensities? For instance a potassium burn for a purple color or magnesium for an intense, white light. I suppose what it comes down to is, can one's res be primed to be react to attracted fire this way and likewise be primed to transmute into these colors?

The transmuting of different colored fire is more cosmetic so I could see the color being related to the nature of the reimancer. As for different intensities, I see it as the more res you "burn" the greater the intensity you can transmute or attract. A very dangerous thing though as one could easily fall to overgiving by trying to work with extremely hot fires.

Is this element strictly water? Or can other liquids be created like ammonia?

I say strictly water. At much higher levels of reimancy, perhaps salt-water as a para-element but otherwise I'm going with water is water.

Can the composition of the transmuted air be altered? For instance spreading one's res throughout a small room and converting it into mainly CO2, or breath, to suffocate. Or conversely convert a confined space's used up air into fresh, breathable, standard air mix.

I would think you could create air in a confined space that was previously void of it or attract/remove it from a room. I don't think you could change the composition of the air drastically without going to immediate overgiving (again, very high level reimancers would have a better time).

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Overall, I would say that more specified transmutations or attractions of specific elements or even para-elements is going to be difficult. The greater one's skill level, the easier it will get but overgiving is going to be a definite danger even for the Masters. I say this because the greater your skill, the greater the effects your going to shoot for; the more complex and complicated your desired results will be. Thus, the more powerful you become, the more dangerous overgiving is.
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Reimancy questions

Postby Pjeil on November 26th, 2013, 6:14 pm



Thanks Gillar for taking the time to reply. :)
One of the reasons that I love this forum so much is the ability to make creative interpretations on something like magic. Of course it is designed so that playing it does not require going to great lengths to detail the magic use, but one could go into detail if they want!
With something like this, I could see someone who has intimate knowledge of Earth, soils and stones having an edge in this kind of magic. (Which makes me want to get my character into the skill, despite the terrible risks)

Thanks again for the very interesting food for thought.
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