Questions about Kelvics, and plot (Massive Brain Dump)

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Questions about Kelvics, and plot (Massive Brain Dump)

Postby Deleronark on December 14th, 2016, 2:17 am

Hey, A few questions on Kelvics and ideas I have just to hear others thoughts. I think I have a good idea for most of it, but I want to ask anyways. There is a lot of ranting, and displaying of my thoughts, for that I apologize. For clarity sake I did underline the actual questions, but it might not be helpful, sense a lot of the questions are entwined with the paragraphs.

Some information on Deleronark, he is a Talderian Wolf Kelvic, I have already gotten permission, and he was once, though is no longer, a slave. He has been bonded once, but his bondmate is now dead. He has escaped and is now in Endrykas, I have also gotten approve on the conept.



The Flux, and a Kelvic
As far as I can tell, Kelvics are just as comfortable in their human forms, as in their animal forms. And, they are able to use certain magics in both. The Flux being a body magic I feel it would be usable in both forms, as safer even that combining morphing and Flux? Has anyone seen PC’s combined the two, and what are your thoughts? I feel like it shouldn’t be an issue, but want to make sure.


Kelvic’s and Horses
I can already hear the groans, but I have a few questions. Deleronark is going to start out in Endrykas, and he is a Wolf kelvic. So, no striders for him, and honestly, I am okay with this. If I wanted a strider I would be an Drykas. But, I wanted to ask about other horses. As far as I can understand it, horses will be very uneasy and untrusting of Deleronark from the get go, especially if they see his animal form. And, Deleronark is still a predator, he will always question the taste of horse meat, especially if hungry. However, I assume I can still use animal husbandry, and gain the trust of a horse? Maybe not to ride, at least not at first, but to be comfortable to pull a wagon. After all, the city moves a lot, and I see a wolf hucking around his stuff to be even more troublesome to the city. Also, how possible if is it for Deleronark to gain the trust of said horse, will he ever be able to ride it? I am talking about after quite a few IC threads to gain trust. I know a lot of people will say anything is possible, but I want to stay true to the lore, and let’s be honest, not everything is possible, it just can’t be. As such, if it is unlikely I want to keep that in mind before even attempting to make it a possibility.


Kelvics and Diseases as well as food(for a Talderian)
I honestly feel this is a no brainer, and answered in the lore, but I want to ask anyways for my own clarification. Wounds, and sicknesses do transfer between both forms. So, if Human Del get the flu, then Wolf Del will have the sniffles and symptoms, and vice versa, although it might be diagnosed differently, they are infact more or less the same. A canine only disease will still transfer to Human Del?

In regards to food, this is again for my own mind and I think I understand it. Deleronark is a Talderian wolf, and as such would (if he was real) eat mostly raw meat, and at very very large quantities. However, there are some things that will help his case. Being a Kelvic in human form, he would need an increased calorie intake, and probably get hungry more but, he would not need to eat an entire dear in a day? Not that he couldn’t do it. And, say that Wolf Del did decide to hunt, and kill a dear, and eat it. Despite how much he ate, and that it was raw food, it would not harm or effect Human Del? On that, Kelvics are weird, so as such Human Del, if he wanted could infact eat raw meat, and it would not kill/harm him? But, he does not require raw meat, and in another scenario, his wolf form wouldn’t die if his Human form decided to pig out on chocolate? I am not certain about the last couple, but it makes sense to me, so I want to ask.


Kelvics and Slavery
So, Deleronark is a slave, who was once bonded. So, I have some questions about that situation. I think I did it correctly, and with the lore. But, I want to make sure.

Deleronark as a slave would be an irritable and depressed creature, like any animal but more so. Not only is he a human, forced into the confinement, but as an animal he was kept from the very things that make him special, such as running in the wilds, or howling at the moon. I would play this as a character that has become very untrusting, and somewhat awkward, in both forms. He doesn’t really know what to do with his freedom, nor does he really know what to do as a “true wolf”. Does this sound feasible and pretty accurate?


Bonding-
Deleronark as I said was bonded while in slavery, however it was not to his horrid master. Long story short(the long one in in CS) He was expected to compete as a fighter, uk being massive wolf and all, but at the time he was only one year of age. He was paired up with another slave, a Drykas woman with her own set of skills(More on her in my CS as well). She had tried to keep him at arm’s length, but in the end Deleronark chose her for his bond when he came into adulthood(another year later), solely because it was his only source of solace within the confinement, and she chose him because of what they shared. The bond formed before Deleronark first true fight, when the two learned they couldn’t survive slavery without the other. They ended up falling in love, and the rest came from that. However, their bond ended up causing strain on them. Just as any love would do as slaves. The strain was not bad, but Deleronark master would use it to keep either of them in line. By threatening the life of the other. In addition, their bond aloud Deleronark learn faster during their training. Something the master was not opposed to. In the end my question is if this sounds lore friendly, does this sound correct for a bond? I know they are all different, and I feel I did it correctly. But I just want another opinion? I do want it stated, that his bond mate is now dead. That is an entire different story, and leads to more problems in his backstory, which I have fleshed out.



I apologies for the massive amount of reading, as well as the total brain dumb. I just wanted to run some things though other players, mostly to make sure I understand things correctly. I am very thankful to anyone who answers or provides their own opinions.
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Questions about Kelvics, and plot (Massive Brain Dump)

Postby Zifor on December 15th, 2016, 5:55 pm

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As a Fellow Kelvic I agree with a lot of confusion I understand your pain Firstly I would like to point out a bit of lore in regards to what you have spoken of

Food:

"Kelvic diets enjoy an interesting twist do to the Kelderon Mimic. If an animal form prefers raw meat, that feeding will not effect the human form. Conversely, a grazing animal like a horse will not make a human form ill by shape shifting into a human with a belly full of grass. The symbiote’s influence has solved this problem (along with Marcus Kelvics hard work). In addition, a dire animal that consumes say an entire deer and then transforms into a human will not have an issue with stomach contents threatening their lives. They will simply just enjoy not being hungry for a long while and an overabundance of food-derived energy.".


As it states "Food Derived Energy" or in human terms Calories Are handled by the Mimic inside of the given Kelvic in the Case of a talderian i would imagine it works insanely rapidly thus the increase in the weight of the kelvic so at least in my thoughts a kelvic doesn't simply digest the food the way a normal human or animal would but instead the mimic does it for them and gives out calories when it needs too.

SO if i understand this correctly, Albeit i may not and if someone could correct me if i am wrong. Not only would he not get sick from eating raw meat as a wolf i dont even think he would get sick if he ate it in his human state as well i just dont think his human state would like eating raw meat as it is not that tasty to a human.

A far as the Flux Can go:

I would say not to shift at all or even consider doing so when shifting as morphing and the flux do not go together, BUT using it in either form should be acceptable keep in mind Del Should learn something of human and Canine anatomy to be able to use the flux Effectively.

Regarding your question's about Horses:

I Would Say that with enough animal husbandry you could counter the Predator/Prey Aversion and if given enough intent even befreind a horse But Del would have to really make an effort to get into the mindset of "This is not Prey this is a freind".

In Regards to Diseases and illnesses:

Wounds transfer, That is short and correct as far as Diseases even i am unsure i would leave it up to a grader or Pm An ST If the problem arises but currently there should not be an issue as of yet my advice is ask if something like this becomes a concern to Del.

In Regards to Slavery/Freedom:

More than accurate this is exactly what would happen ive Studied institutionalization and not only would someone kept as a slave not know how to be a man but an animal kept as a slave or a pet would not know how to be a true wild/free animal.

But on the flip side Instinct will show Del how to become free and if he watches properly and observes he will become like the humans around him or the Drykas in his case IF he chooses too.

In Regards to Bonding:
A Bond forged in battle would be a strong one i imagine and some bonds do result in physical and almost always an emotional attachment or Love.

And i would say i imagine that if this bond mate died it would result in a bout of depression and i just want to make sure you know this in his backstory that he is probably a very sad individual for a while after his bondmate died.

If so I Would feel that it is lore freindly :)

Well i hope i helped if you want me to be more specific about anything i said Shoot me a PM And if you would like to ask me about anything specific feel free.

Hope I Helped :)


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Questions about Kelvics, and plot (Massive Brain Dump)

Postby Deleronark on December 15th, 2016, 7:44 pm

Thank you so much, much of what you said confirmed what I was thinking, and thats what I needed more than anything. He is definitely a depressed individual for many reasons, though wishes to fight it, assuming he can find someone to help.

I can't believe I missed that part of the lore, I feel like I read it before but when I was looking durring asking this question I guess I looked over it again. This is helpful.

I don't think sickness or disease will become a problem, but I was curious just in case.

Thanks for the advise in regards to anatomy I will definitely keep that in mind. And use it to my advantage.

Thanks as a whole, this definitely helped with my questions and gave me a lot to think about.
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