[Kelvic] Mizahar's Wild Children

[Rhy]

Something I've been remiss in posting but I really should share. Apparently Kelvics can't speak to each other the way humans do. Its all in body language and sounds without that kind of clarity. I asked that question here and Gossamer cleared it up for me.

Just for future reference.

[Sliver]

So I had a question to throw out to those with Kelvic knowledge, just a little doodad that I thought of when reading over some info on Phylonura.

Would a person with Phylonura be able to identify a Kelvic on sight if they were in animal form? Since the fact that a Kelvic can instantly determine another Kelvic on sight, I was wondering if this Gnosis would grant a similar ability, or would they have to discover this like anyone else would due to the magical quality that created Kelvic?

[Gianne Basete]

That I know of myself, a Phylonurist, like Gianne, would have to touch or make eye contact with said Kelvic if no knowledge is had beforehand. Now, a Champion of Caiyha on the other hand might just be too awesome to be fooled by Kelvic magic! After all they would have seen a lot, both of run of the mill animals and Kelvics alike. But other than that, the eye or physical contact would be a dead giveaway. Kelvics would think different than other animals. Their thoughts would be more intelligent and lean toward the human side, since they know what average animals don't. Like how to talk, and what other races do.

Nura, the language of Phylonurists, isn't a language with words. It's about feelings and images. They might be thinking of that pesky hole in their trousers back home, or of the rat problem in their master's house. Maybe a potential bondmate has appeared in their life and they just can't get lovey feelings out of their head! A Phylonurist would be like, "...Not a plain old tabby cat!". A different range of intentions, motions, and images would be sent to them. So, to answer your question... after all of my mediocre examples and rambling... touch and physical contact! But if I'm wrong or left anything out, Jen would be the brains to know.

[Sliver]

Thanks Gianne, that makes total sense rambling and all!

[Nya Winters]

Phylonurists cant tell Kelvics from regular animals even with a touch unless they see them shapeshift. Touching makes no difference. Nura is the language of Phylonurists. Kelvics don't speak it. Mura is the name of Konti Isle... and the city there.

[Rhy]

Sure they do. If Kelvics are animals and all animals speak Nura. "Kelvics are animals that change to human, not humans that change to animals", is recited to every new kid that wants to play a one.

[Nya Winters]

I'm fairly sure I'm not wrong on that... beings that I wrote both the Kelvic Article and the Phylonura Article. And, truth be told, Kelvics aren't technically 'animals' though that is the simplest explanation I give people to describe them to folks so they can easily understand without launching into a big huge philosphical discussion about what Kelvics actually are.

What kelvics actually are is a CONSTRUCT between an off world creature, and a combination of genetic engineering and magic that was pre-Valterrian and lost to the world in this day and age. It is true they are more animals than humans, but again they are born to human parents. The kelvic factor is carried on the human genome and that technically excludes them from Nura.

So sorry. They do not speak Nura.

[Sliver]

Thanks Nya,

But now I am slightly confused. So if Kelvics don't speak Nura, wouldn't that be a dead give away if a Phylonurist attempted to communicate with them in animal form? Or would it be more of a, "Wow I guess this owl just really doesn't want to talk to me."?

[Nya Winters]

Sliver-

Your second notion is correct. Phylonurists don't automatically talk to every animal. Read the writeup. In the case of one mark, animals don't necessarily trust them. The witches are only BEGINNING to learn to speak to creatures via Nura. And with only one mark, the plants and animals tolerate the witch regardless of biome. They will not attack. They see you as a friend and will defend if you control a biome they dwell within. But.. .that doesn't mean they will TALK to you. You have to earn that right in some cases. And if you are out of your biome... say your a Grassland Witch standing in the Fringe Forest, forget it. No one's probably going to say a word to you regardless of who you touch. Nura isn't all knowing all seeing and yet I'm seeing some Phylonurists, especially up in Kalea, play it that way.

The singularly marked individual is granted the language of Nura and begins to learn to communicate with plants and animals of all sorts. Nura can even cause the witch to actively associate with insects which are vital forms of life in Caiyha's domain. The witch is granted one biome to look after, and is given often multiple years to hone her skills and branch out to invest time and energy in the space she or he protects. The more skills a witch learns and perfects, the more likely she will feel the urge to move and and resettle, especially when her current biome has been in balance for a significantly long period of time. Many witches at this stage can also 'lose' their marks if Caiyha finds them lacking in motivation or determination when it comes to being her guardians of the world.

So that means that Nura (not Mura):

Nura is the language of Phylonurists. The knowledge of how to completely speak this language is granted to a witch with her first mark. Nura works almost like a combination between empathy and intuition. A witch must make eye-contact with a creature or touch it (if eyeless) to speak Nura to it. Nura is a silent language of emotions and intentions, often conducted like a telepathy that instead reveals images and feelings to each user. Plants as well as animals can utilize this language.

Okay, so a little witch with a mark one... knows Nura completely once marked.. but the application of it, how to get animals to trust her.. how to get grass to talk to her... is completely and utterly up to her and her learning curve. If he or she rp's being awesome at it, then you know... that's no better than a beginning bowman picking up a bow and shooting a shit ton of zith out of the sky dead. Cheesy.

While not being a language EVERYONE knows, it is the ability Caiyha gives to the Phylonurists to be able to communicate to plants and animals. Its not like the animals TALK TO EACH OTHER with it. They don't. They don't automatically speak it. The just magically understand the witch when she speaks it (using telepathy/empathy). But again, they don't have to answer and they don't have to listen.

So that means a kelvic will just come across as an unfriendly or not too sympathetic. And the odds are that kelvic, if you think about it, won't be in its own original biome anyhow. Why should they trust her? They aren't a plant or animal. They are a sentient creature.

Get it?

[Sliver]

Yes that makes sense. In the scenario that raised this question, my Kelvic is actually in her natural biome, so I would assume the Phylonurist would be a little confused as to why a creature within his biome is not quite as social, but then again she is a wolverine lol, so probably not the most friendly creatures to begin with.

I think it was just because the Nura write up spoke about the empathetic connection I assumed that once someone began sharing images and feeling with an animal it would be an instantaneous realization that they were Kelvic, but the whole genetic/magical creation making the Kelvic a bit too off kilter to communicate with Nura makes total sense as well as the fact that the animal might be "Hey bud, just cause you're blessed don't mean I want to have a chat."

Thank you ever so much for the clarification!