Travel Times - NEED FOUNDER INPUT

[Cayenne]

Just a few things, and you're probably going to utterly hate me by the end of this short post. So I'm bribing you now with cookies, strawberry shortcake, and homemade marshmellow.

Chabosa was renamed Charbosi in the development phase, and it's actually not located on mainland Falyndar... but it's way down on the bottom of the Faleyk Gulf, probably some thirty miles off-shore on the ocean's floor. The map needs to eventually be updated to reflect that, but there's been so much going on that it's kind of taken a back seat.

Second, you didn't have to include Syka on there - it's not a city... just a battle memorial.

[Dusk]

Heh. Fun. Okay, deleting rows is way easier than recalculating them.

All right, does anyone else have ANY other things that I need to know about your cities, the distance chart, the map, or anything that might have ANYTHING to do with this project?

[Griffith]

Two things, Dusk. Sorry.

First, could you perchance include Hai in there?

Secondly, how did you come to 96 days for travel from Riverfall to Ahnatep while only having 28 days from Ahnatep to Yahebeh? I ask because it only takes 52 days to get to Ahantep from Syliras, somehow, and because that's suddenly a whole season a group of people might have to spend traveling soon.

[Dusk]

Okay, lemme say this again...

ANY city that is on the map is included in the distance chart. If you guys would actually read the more recent posts in this thread instead of just the first one, and click on the link I posted to the very elaborate chart I worked on for most of the spring, you'd see that.

Secondly, the charts in the first post are both wrong and incomplete, as has been discussed, again, in the posts that followed it. Don't use them. They're not approved. I have deleted them to keep people from being confused by this.

Thirdly, if you think it's NOT going to take most of a season to walk from Syliras to Ahnetep, you're crazy. That's half the length of the continent. In more understandable terms, that's like walking from New York to Seattle. In the current incarnation of the travel chart (which is by no means official) my calculations say it'll take about 60-65 days on foot. Assuming you don't run into any trouble on the way, which is highly unlikely!

[Griffith]

Ah... Well, the "whole season" comment was directed at the trip from Riverfall to Ahnatep. And from what I saw of most of the follow-up posts, it seemed to mostly involve discussion of expansion and saying that the sailing times were off. Thought the walking times might be accurate.

Sorry for asking a pointless question, then. But I do have one more, for the sake of personal calculation: is the ground covered on foot still be treated as 50 miles per 12 hour day in the next version?

[Dusk]

That is the assumption of travel over flat, unobstructed terrain. However, you know how often THAT happens. So most of the distances will have adjustments for terrain.

[Griffith]

Hmm... Well, alright. That helps. Thanks for clarifying.

[Basiliscos V Argomedo]

If realism is the largest concern in travel times, walking 50 miles a day seems extremely generous. Purely the walking portion would have a very high caloric requirement, close to 5,000, but that should be adjusted for weight. This would also suck up lots of time and energy for the hunting, gathering or fishing required to find and prepare that much food, making 12 hour walks extremely difficult. Water would be simple if you were taking a route along a river, which is popular for that reason.

50 miles a day would be the equivalent of a forced march for experts trained for that sort of thing, and even then, the very best trained marchers would only be to keep that pace for a few days. Keeping a pace of 20 miles a day is much more realistic for an experienced, well trained walker. Distance covered is the largest concern, walking versus running doesn't matter that much, as they have similar energy requirements for similar distances.

Things aren't all that much faster with horses either, simply because horses have to eat a great deal, and without a constant source of high quality grains, it takes them a long while to do it. They also tend to get tired faster when carrying people.

Of course, this would mean travel between cities would be discouraged more so than it is now, but it doesn't make sense to have land travel times be so close to sailing travel times.